one thing feels a bit off…

OSE faucets into all the B/X OSR ecosystem. This can be a large deal: Previous modules, new modules and many others,. It isn’t depending on their dolemwood setting hitting large to faucet into the bigger OSR B/X participant community.

Shadowdark will not be as instantly appropriate to the present B/X OSR ecosystem as OSE.

The success of the KS could result in a gradual participant community to promote adventures, and develop the sport. However that’s one thing that won’t be readily obvious for a couple of years.

What it could faucet into is the ecosystem of 5e journey and setting design.

If Dionne does a very good job changing her current 5e adventures to Shadowdark, and gives conversion guides for different publishers (and even for GMs to do themselves), then there could be a very sizeable ecosystem that builds up round it.

It isn’t like OSE being the effectively laid out system that faucets into the present ecosystem, because it is not fairly the identical factor. However it’s effectively positioned. And I’d suppose you’ll be able to run The Darkish of Scorching Springs Island with out hassle utilizing Shadowdark.

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She’s already stated she will not be prone to convert her previous adventures. Case of been there, executed that and he or she feels extra motivated to create new materials for Shadowdark. She’s already acquired a zine with three points out as this method has been in beta for over a yr, and there’s one thing like 20+ Shadowdark merchandise by third events on Drivethru now. The Shadowdark ecosystem already exists and is rising.

LOL; The sport is not even out but!

Completely not coordinated in any respect… 

I will give the Shadowdark devs credit score the place credit score is due: They know the best way to get their hustle on!

Cannot hate on that.

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The quickstart guidelines have been out for fairly some time and a variety of the stuff on DriveThruRPG was uploaded in late 2021/early 2022.

So individuals from the SD circle of associates and acquaintances then. As a result of the entire recreation is not even out but.

This definitely offers SD the phantasm of some sort of ‘broad’ 3pp help.

Look, for all we all know it could faucet into one thing and take off like a rocket. However proper now that’s pure hypothesis.

All I am saying is that this: One profitable KS doesn’t a OSE-B/X rivaling participant community make.

Solely time will inform the way it actually takes.

Nicely, I clarify my place on this relating to the Shadowdark writer’s private historical past: she frolicked with precise Previous College avid gamers, which is nice, however most of them usually are not large into the 2nd or third wave OSR.

Certain, no disagreement. I do know you regard the extra revolutionary 2nd & third wave OSR materials as superior to the retro-clone and near-clone stuff. Shadowdark appears to be within the near-clone space, a bit extra variance/innovation in mechanics than a typical near-clone, however nonetheless based mostly off B/X guidelines and meant for conventional dungeon delving fantasy in a barely darker than regular milieu.

So individuals from the SD circle of associates and acquaintances then. As a result of the entire recreation is not even out but.

There was a beta and it was pretty extensively distributed, probably of their discord neighborhood which is fairly energetic and tight knit. I do not suppose it is a matter of issues being saved deliberately closed up, a lot that the sport was just about flying underneath everybody’s radar(oh yawn, yet one more OSR clone) till the launch and publicity blew up on it.